This blog is meant to piss you off. Dog owners, you got full right to be angry when you understand what’s been done to you by “dog trainers”. Now, let me piss you off. This is going to be a long blog, but if you as a dog owner – especially one that has behaviorally euthanised a dog can get through it? You will understand why I’m angry, and you should be angry too.
Dog trainers are nothing more than social media influencers. And if people would really listen to what they say, you would understand that they have no clue about what they are selling. 20 years ago, dog trainers sold out dog owners to corporations. To top that off – all they do is layer on the fear. They need you afraid of your dog and afraid of what your dog is going to do. That’s called a trauma bond. Then it’s “hire a trainer” because you can’t possibly do it on your own. They make you afraid – and make money off that fear. Isn’t that called extortion?
What dog trainers like Cabral call “science based dog trainers” are people like me. The problem for him – I’m the fly in his ointment – I’m bringing the real science of B.F Skinner and others back into the dog world. But according to him, we are a cult of “Positive Only” or “Purely Positive”. He calls us liars, he ridicules people like me – but he’s right about one thing… I am dangerous to the entire system of dog training – because I’m exposing the lies that dog trainers tell. They are fully admitting what they did – they brag about building this “Pet Care Conglomerate” – or what others call the “Pet Industrial Complex”. Lets begin.
And for the dog trainers reading – you deserve the full brunt of the accountability that is going to come from dog owners at some point. You keep pushing this war in dog training? Oh, there is a war coming and I think you know it. Millions of dogs have been executed behaviorally because of dog trainers – and they cant and won’t define the very word behavior. Listen to Robert Cabral trying to give the definition of the word “Behavior” the old college try. Robert Cabral – the behavioral expert in the behavior field for 20 years – can’t define the word behavior. Excuse me while I go puke. But I’m the lying asshole – right Robert? Thank you Glock23 for getting him to expose himself.
And millions of dog owners lives have been destroyed because of the lies you tell. And it’s not just Cabral – it’s Balabanov, it’s Zak George and his “scientific consensus”, it’s Larry Krohn, Haz Othman and many others that are outright lying to you for money. I’ve spoken over zoom with a couple of Ivan’s Balabanov’s former clients that were looking for help. Ivan too blames B.F Skinner, but his clients get a book and it’s not Skinner – it’s a book by Konrad Most. It’s interesting. This is called “Extortion” ladies and gentlemen. That’s why I’m dangerous. That’s why they are trying to silence me.
This is the very science that dog trainers don’t want you to know. This is the “science that has no place in dog training”. The very science of behavior – and the father of Operant Conditioning – B.F Skinner and Psychology. They couldn’t even get the definition of Operant Conditioning right.
Mr. Cabral – I’m using your own words from your video. If you want to keep calling that slander and libel? Go for it! You put yourself in front of the world – but people need to hear some criticism
There are 4 huge whoppers of lies in this 30 seconds worth of video from Robert Cabral’s live chat posted on Dec 10, 2023 called Why I said “SCIENCE has No Place in Dog Training” and why many dog trainers agree. Feel free to listen to exactly what he says on his own video. I didn’t change his words. Go to Robert’s channel on youtube, search for that title – he says it at the 10:43 mark.
First whopper – “There is very little science to this science based dog training”. Holy Fawk, I can’t believe he said that. In this same 30 seconds, you’ll hear him blame B.F Skinner for the quadrants. B.F Skinner would call Cabral a blatant liar – Skinner railed AGAINST the use of punishment – because punishment is ineffective. Why? That’s not how a behavior works. I’ll get into that further down.
Second whopper – Robert doesn’t like the word Punishment – he likes the word “correction”. Funny how that word has gone through all of dog training? Positive Reinforcement, balanced, IGP and even Dog Daddy – it’s all correction. Just correct the dog – well, replace correction with punishment the next time you watch a dog trainer. Does that change your view on what that trainer is doing. Even Zak George uses the word correction. Why is this happening? They have been trying to hide their years worth of lies – they are now trying to hide their “Quadrants of dog training”. Why would they do that? I’ve seen the Quadrants of dog training now being sold and pushed as the “motivation matrix”. Trainers say that Skinner is so yesterday? We’ve moved beyond Skinner. Skinner means nothing?
Third whopper. B.F Skinner and the Quadrants – that’s the biggest lie in dog training. People don’t know where the quadrants came from. Let me tell you where they came from. Robert Cabral is an IGP dog trainer. What is IGP? The dog training sport of Obedience, Tracking And Protection. IGP dog training was formerly known as IPO. And IPO was formerly known as Schutzhund. And just who is the father of Schutzhund? A fellow by the name of Konrad Most – he was a Colonel in the German military back in world war 2. He trained German Shepherd’s ONLY by hook or by crook using “Inducements and Compulsions” for the war effort. Konrad had no formal education – but Skinner did. This is what is being called dog training today. Can we as a demographic step back and ask ourselves – are we doing right by our dogs? Because what people have normalized doing to a sentient animal called the dog in the last 15 years scares me.
Primary and Secondary Inducements – primary and secondary compulsive inducements. There is your real Quadrants of Dog Training. The 4 Quadrants of IGP/Schutzhund dog training – again, the dog training sport of Obedience, Tracking and Protection. And to add to that – all of the treats, the prongs, the e-collars, the muzzles, the crates and whatever else is out there? These are all tools of IGP dog training – they don’t belong in pet stores. They don’t belong in your hands or in your home. What you know as “Positive Reinforcement” is in reality “Primary Inducements” – look those words up. Food and affection – Konrad Most. And Zak George is fully aware of all this – but he lies about it. What you know as Positive Reinforcement” is a complete lack of understanding of what Positive Reinforcement really is.
What is being sold to you as “Positive Reinforcement” is in reality Primary Inducements. There is no such thing as a “Positive Reinforcement” trainer. They are in reality “Primary Inducement” trainers – and Primary Inducement is ONE Quadrant of the 4 Quadrants Of IGP Dog Training. Yes, Zak George is one of the leaders in this disgusting game. Everyone starts off in Positive Reinforcement right? Hey, it’s the good one right? When it fails to work on your dogs behaviors – you’re off to balanced dog training. How much money have you spent on dog training? How much return did you get? Onto Balanced Training; Do you not think it funny how you have to bring the primary inducements called treats with you? In Balanced Training you are completing the system of quadrants i.e. all 4 quadrants get used. Positive Reinforcement is a springboard into IGP/balanced dog training. When you teach your dog obedience – you are teaching using IGP dog training.
Fourth big whopper – and I quote – “Punishment is an effective way of extinguishing behavior”. Bullshit. And again – B.F Skinner would call you a blatant liar.
I loved when Larry Krohn put out his book. His message, buy an e-collar and train your dog to recall. This is IGP dog training – he’s not talking about the book that it came from. He doesn’t want to talk about that book. Yay Skinner.
Lets define the very word “behavior” – the very word that scares dog trainers. People ask me why I harp on about the definition of behavior all the time. It’s because that is the very word that the entire system of dog training comes down to. Lots of behavioral experts out there – and experts in Behavioral Euthanasia? Yeah, I’m talking about you Michael Shikashio. They are claiming to be experts on when you should kill your dog.
B.F Skinner was a brilliant pioneer in the field of Psychology – the very study of the mind and behavior. And for what he did – he never once declared himself an expert in anything. The first line of the introduction of his book “About Behaviorism” – Behaviorism is not the science of human behavior – it is the philosophy of that science. What is philosophy but a quest for knowledge? Yet, Cabral couldn’t give enough of a shit about the dog to open a dictionary and define the word behavior. Go ask your dog trainer, or your behaviorist, or your vet or your vet behaviorist to define the very word behavior? All I ever get is dumb looks – but they are the first in line to tell you to kill your dog? Some vets actually have the nerve to demand that a dog owner euthanize their dog – they try to make an appointment. Can you say Zak George and his “scientific consensus”?
To define behavior properly, we shall listen to one minute of B.F Skinner himself – the man that Cabral blames for the Punishment quadrants talk about the word that he can’t define. Skinner talking about behavior and free will. You as a human animal cannot help your behaviors – neither can the dog. You do not have “Free Will” when it comes to your behaviors. You have “Free Will” in your mind – but your mind has no control over your behaviors. Your brain controls your behaviors – and they are generally in response to your emotional state. More further down.
Now, what is a behavior? It’s simply your body’s response to something in the environment – that’s it, that’s all. In order to understand the field of Psychology – we need to separate the mind from the brain and treat them as separate entities. All of your will, your desires, your wants, your needs – your choices – they are in your mind – that’s where you have all the Free Will. Your brain controls everything you do, it’s your brain that decides any actions you take. Everything outside of the brain is an external environment – including your body. If your nose is itchy, your brain sends signals all around your body – to get your body to reach up and scratch your nose. People don’t smile for no reason – there is a external (to the brain) reason for it. Maybe you’re proud of something in the environment. Or something in the environment triggers a memory – and you smile as a result? It’s every move you make. There is a reason for everything you do. Even talking is a behavior.
B.F Skinner did experiments on dogs, rats, pigeons etc in a laboratory to understand human behavior – we were the target of his research. It wouldn’t go over so well if he locked a child in the box and started extracting their Positive Reinforcement. Yes – the human animal was target of his research. Skinner proved beyond any shadow of a doubt that the very causes of your behavior are no different from the causes of your dogs behavior.
It’s your brain, not your mind, that controls your emotions – and emotions are your instincts that drive your behavior. It’s no different for the dog. Fear is a powerful base emotion that drives your behaviors of fight and flight – just like the dog. When the human animal faces something new in the environment that they are unsure of – the animal brain based on your emotions of fear or anxiety will send signals to your adrenal glands to up the cortisol and adrenaline levels. This increase in hormones is due to your unsurety – and it is putting you on the precipice of “Fight – Aggression” or “Flight – Avoidance”. Do you need to fight for your life – or escape? But the dog trainers are telling you to intervene and reward and/or punish your dog for a hormonal response to the environment. Again – what is a behavior? Aggression and reactivity are caused by cortisol and adrenaline – that’s why Skinner understood that Punishment doesn’t work. That’s not the way behaviors work in the first place – you cannot “fix” a behavior. You cannot fix a symptom – the outcome of a problem. But you can suppress it – and that is downright stupid and dangerous – especially as it pertains to aggression.
If you don’t fix the cause – then suppression is going to make things far worse. The cause will grow heads – it will find a way to express itself – but punish the dog more right? Punishment is temporarily effective at best – that’s why you have to keep punishing. That’s why you have to keep hitting the remote on the e-collar or crank and yank on that prong. There is always the threat of punishment. But take the tools off the dog – and put that dog into their natural environment. Say a dog park, lots of distractions. What happens when the dog realizes that you’re not in control? They will run away – because they don’t want to be your friend. If your dog were human – would that human want to be your friend? Or would they run away? Now you have to train recall – punish a dog that doesn’t want to be with you. Make that make sense!
Rationalization – that’s another big whopper. Dog trainers will tell you that dogs can’t rationalize – and in their definition they are right. But again, they threw all of the science of behavior into the garbage. There is a Psychological definition of Rationalization that most people aren’t aware of.
So, there is something in the environment that you’re not sure of. Your brain sends the signals to put you on the precipice of “Fight or Flight”. But there is a third option. Becoming “Indifferent” – Rationalizing through the fear. You have the power to stand there and come to the realization that this thing isn’t a big deal. That Negative Consequence is becoming one of Positive Consequence. This thing isn’t going to harm me, I don’t need to be scared – you make it “not a big deal”.
Under the quadrants training system, the dog isn’t allowed to rationalize, so dogs most never get to learn to rationalize. It’s being taken away by trainers – you as a dog owner are told to step in and intervene with treats or punishments before there is any possibility of your dog learning to make scary things in the environment – “not a big deal” by thinking the situation through. And by the way – when the entire environment is “Not a big deal” — that’s called socialized. When everything in the environment is “not a big deal” – you’re in a calm state. No negatives to react to. You cannot obtain social skills in a dog that is not socialized – sorry, but that’s reality.
You are told that while your dog is having a cortisol and adrenaline response to something in the environment – and by the way – like you – they can’t help their behavior – You are being told to take away that ability to learn how to rationalize. And that ladies and gentlemen is the biggest form of punishment and abuse that you can do to any animal. Try that with your human child – reward and/or punish their fear states and see the outcome. Because it’s no different.
And that basic fact is why dog trainers fear the very science of behavior. They get away with blaming B.F Skinner – cause they know that dog owners like you won’t verify. And it allows the dog trainers to preach Skinner – but hide the real father of their beloved quadrants – Konrad Most. More about him further down. When Cabral talks about discomfort belonging in dog training? That’s not Skinner, that’s Konrad Most. Why? Ask yourselves why?
Which leads me to really pissing you off. Skinner said something very important at the end of that video. The very object of the science of behavior is discovering its’ causes. That’s called diagnosis and what’s being sold to you as “dog training” is really just a non-workable solution to a problem that hasn’t been diagnosed. Dog trainers don’t care about the cause of the behaviors – and that means they threw the entire field of Psychology in the garbage. Welcome to the cash cow.
Causality – we are slaves to it. Cause and effect. What pisses you off? What makes you “aggressive”? If you and I met in a bar, and you slapped me – what caused you to slap me? That would be my question to you – you slapped me – that’s an aggressive response to something that I did or said. Why did you slap me? Lets diagnose it. Why did the dog growl? Why did the dog lunge? Why did the dog bite? That’s very important stuff to understand. When I was a kid and we got bit by a dog? We were blamed, what did we do to deserve it? Today, it’s a death sentence to the dog. What happened? How did we get here? When is the first, last or anytime you were asked that question? Why is your dog acting this way? The dog isn’t broken – not yet anyways but we are going to “fix” it until it is.
Trainers don’t want to discuss the cause – they want you to focus on the symptoms – the outcome of a problem. Why? Cause when you really understand the cause of your dogs behaviors? You will never “hire a trainer” ever again – because you are going to realize that YOU are the only one that can build that relationship with your dog. You are the only one that can fix your dog – despite the fact that you’ve been convinced otherwise.
Dog trainers very quickly diagnose a dog to be “aggressive” or “reactive”. But neither aggression or reactivity is a diagnosis – they are effects. Cause and effect remember? Aggression and reactivity are only symptoms – the outcome of a problem. Oh but they are scary words eh? Fear aggression is all the rage. But what if I told you the dog in reality is showing aggression and reactivity because they are afraid. It’s a natural hormonal response due to the instinct of fear. You would be the same put in an identical situation – but that’s not going to make dog trainers any money. Would you appreciate someone stuffing food in your face or yanking on your neck when you’re in a fear state, and then getting frustrated and angry at you when it doesn’t help?
20 years ago, dog trainers like Robert Cabral and Larry Krohn got out of their lane called IGP – and they jumped into the behavior ring and they brought all their treats and tools and containment with them. Larry fully admits on his facebook that he’s been manipulating “Pet Dog Trainers” into seeing the genius of IGP dog training for years now. Larry is an IGP dog trainer too, bear that in mind.
I’ve been watching this shit show for 15 years or so now, helpless to stop it but it’s been going on for at least 20 years. 15 years ago, treats were a tool of last resort – use the tool to train the dog – then lose it. Here we are 15 years later – always have a treat bag on your person – never take it off. Why? 15 years ago, ecollars and prongs were a tool of last resort. Use the tool, train the dog, and get rid of it. Here we are 15 years on, and now “always leave it on – why bother taking it off”? 15 years of calling these things “training tools”? If they were training tools, you wouldn’t need to use them as an insurance policy. It took only 15 years to turn these tools of IGP into insurance policies. It’s just in case!!!
Larry Krohn – IGP dog trainer – doesn’t hide this fact. He freely admits publicly on his facebook page what he and other trainers did over the last 15 to 20 years. Read it for yourself…
https://www.facebook.com/larry.krohn.9/posts/pfbid02oACzwdpBj6vD4pR6JrNrdxA9XWKD2hCBgkGBRbpLqLGxE5B8Yj5j4ijXXRWhDTJ8l
Dog trainers talk about Negative Reinforcement as a quadrant. Listen to David Tirpak over at Miracle K9 talking about Negative Reinforcement. This is the bullshit that dog trainers learn – they learn all “about” Skinner – and what they are taught in reality is what Zak George called “Scientific Consensus” – it’s science by vote. If there was any science to any of this garbage – they would just call it “Science”. Negative means removing things right? Wrong. Very wrong. At some point, you need to look at the world through your dogs eyes – from your dogs point of view.
And Again – they blame B.F Skinner for all this nonsense called dog training. Here is a quote from Skinners’ book “About Behaviorism” – how does Skinner himself define “Negative Reinforcement”? Might surprise you…
Dog trainers are trying to remove behaviors from the animals repertoire – this is called Punishment – not Negative Reinforcement.
When I enter a dogs back yard – I am a Negative Reinforcement – I am generating behaviors from the dog – called “Fight and Flight”. I am a huge force – that’s why the term “Force Free” is absolute garbage terminology. I don’t care about the behaviors, I can see that from any dog. Why is the dog like this? There is no such thing as a “Force Free” trainer. There is always force – it’s just not always physical. Lets keep going…
Another quote from B.F Skinner’s book About Behaviorism. And bear in mind – this is the very man that Cabral stated live on camera as saying “punishment is indeed effective”. Again, Skinner would call Cabral a liar.
Spanking a child – punishment – don’t do it again – and there will always be the threat of punishment to keep the child in line. It doesn’t take away the intent – remember – intent is in your mind. Punishment doesn’t change your mind. Understand that. It doesn’t take away the desire. Lets keep going.
Train the dog for “Incompatible Behaviors” – where have you heard that before? Isn’t the real science interesting? And that only comes through the use and infliction of punishment. Backed up with the constant threat of punishment. Right? Isn’t Psychology fun? And oh – but we aren’t done yet.
Intentions, desires, inclinations, wants, needs – these are all part of your mind – not the brain. You are controlling the animal brain – not the mind. Again, punishment doesn’t take away the desire to repeat what earned the punishment in the first place. And do take note – he avoids punishment by doing something else instead – sometimes it’s stubbornly doing nothing. Think about that when your dog stubbornly does nothing for a task or something that you punished them for in the past? Punishment always comes with the threat of punishment – and that does some weird things to animals. And lets end the blog with one final quote from Skinner.
Positive Reinforcement in reality is your desires for the good things in life, your wants, your needs – but it’s also your desire to remain safe. When you show aggression or reactivity – that’s your positive reinforcement – that’s you trying to remove the “negative reinforcement” in your life.
If you’re scared of spiders, then spiders are a negative reinforcement to you – and the spider is punishing you. It’s generating your behavior to fight or flight. The spider is removing your positive reinforcement – your state of calm. What is your response? Cortisol increases and you go into fight and/or flight – just like the dog. You can kill the spider or throw it outside – that in reality is your positive reinforcement – the removal of negative reinforcement. You can run away from the spider – remove yourself from the negative reinforcement. Or you can choose to understand spiders, make them “not a big deal”. Does that make a little more sense than adding things?
Operant Conditioning isn’t a method of Behavioral Modification using reward and punishment. Operant Conditioning is about survival of the animal and the species. It’s the lessons you learn – good and bad – from the decisions/actions you take when meeting new things in the environment.
And I rest my case.
Let me know your thoughts in the comments.
Jessica 16 February 2025
I sent this post to some master degree graduated students on human psychology that have done some of their thesis on aggressive dogs. All of them said this is pure bullshit and that you don’t understand B.F. Skinner’s work. Sorry to say it.
monty 16 February 2025 — Post author
Really? Give these Masters Degrees my email address – robert@yourdogisnotbroken.org – and tell them to contact me. Lets see if they have the guts to get on camera and put their degrees on the line and do a podcast with me. And I’m bringing Skinners books with me. Willing to take that bet? Cause I am. I will talk to anyone. But I suspect your masters degrees won’t dare come talk to me and I know why.
Jessica 16 February 2025
Well, yes. I sent him/her parts of this blog, removing the proper names of the dog trainers you mention (so as not to involve third parties), and basically he/she told me that it’s better to focus on actual science since it doesn’t make any sense and it’s clear that you don’t understand B.F. Skinner or his work.
I have here one email example that you could sent to some psychologist for them to be on your Youtube Channel (RadicalBehaviorist, right?), so you don’t have to write. I can send it using your email to some of them since they have websites like these and I can write any email. Tell me what you think about it.
Subject: Interview Request: Dog Training and B.F. Skinner
I hope this email finds you well.
My name is Robert Hynes. I have been told about your work in human psychology and also canine psychology. I hope that y our knowledge and experience in these fields can bring some light.
I am currently working on a project about Real Dog Behavior and I would love the opportunity to discuss some key topics with you in depth. I would be particularly interested in discussing the four quadrants of dog training, the methods used nowadays in dog training and B.F. Skinner’s work.
Considering your schedule and convenience, I would like to propose an interview via video call. I would be happy to accommodate your availability and use your preferred platform (Zoom, Google Meet, etc.). The interview would last approximately 30 minutes/1 hour.
I look forward to your kind response and the possibility of scheduling an interview. Thank you very much for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Robert
monty 16 February 2025 — Post author
Excellent. Lets find out if they are willing to put their masters on the line.
Robert.
Jessica 16 February 2025
Done it. I sent it to some people (behavioral psychologist, dog trainer, etc.). You can make a video when they respond to you to see if they’re willing to do it.
monty 16 February 2025 — Post author
So I got an email back from Chirag. I assume this is the person? I sent an email back requesting a zoom call.
Thank you.
monty 16 February 2025 — Post author
Who exactly were you talking to? It wasn’t Chirag. This is the response I got.
Hi Robert,
Thanks for the further info. I have just had. A Quick Look at the first paragraph and I’ve seen the blog post you’re referring to, and no one has sent it to me directly. It’s also not something I typically do—responding to or offering opinions on other people’s blogs especially in an unkind way—so I’m not sure who Jessica is or may have spoken to.
Since I haven’t read the post and don’t have any opinions on it, I wouldn’t be able to engage in a discussion about it. I appreciate you reaching out, though, and I wish you the best with your project.
Kindest wishes
C
Jessica 16 February 2025
I’m experiencing some internet connectivity issues while traveling. I just arrived in Spain and am using the airport’s Wi-Fi. Using your email (robert@yourdogisnotbroken.org), I contacted them through the websites’ contact forms. I sent them the following message (which is what I’m sending you here) to arrange a Zoom call.
If they respond you Robert do not send them the link to this particular blog post right away. Instead, the key is to respond and explain the topic you want to discuss in a less direct way. Avoid the potentially “offensive” language on the blog. The goal is to entice them to agree to a 1-on-1 call and avoid scaring them off. Ig I were you I woulf send them one of your Youtube video sessions with a scared dog at the fence or in the car! And, since I used your email and they don’t know me (Jessica), they might be confused. That’s why I was checking to see if you had an email to contact them for you. Maybe if you respond to Chirag asking him to just talk s little about dog aggression instead of a blog post he will agree.
This is what I sent to them:
Subject: Interview Request: Dog Training and B.F. Skinner
I hope this email finds you well.
My name is Robert Hynes. I have been told about your work in dog psychology and dog aggression. I hope that your knowledge and experience in these fields can bring some light. I am currently working on a project about Real Dog Behavior and I would love the opportunity to discuss some key topics with you in depth. I would be particularly interested in discussing the four quadrants of dog training, the methods used nowadays and B.F. Skinner’s work.
Considering your schedule and convenience, I would like to propose an interview via video call. I would be happy to accommodate your availability and use your preferred platform (Zoom, Google Meet, etc.). The interview would last approximately 30 minutes/1 hour.
I look forward to your kind response and the possibility of scheduling an interview. Thank you very much for your time and consideration.
Sincerely,
Robert
monty 16 February 2025 — Post author
According to you – you sent this blog to a group of Masters in Behaviours and they declared BS. According to you – it’s directly linked to this blog. But now you expect me to play by rules? I think you’re full of something that stinks to be honest.
I’m going to tell you one more time. I have zero issues talking to anyone – but they never seem to want to talk to me. They all have a big mouth – but they won’t put their money where their mouth is. That goes for trainers, behaviourists, vets, and vet behaviourist – but they love to declare BS. Good luck getting any AVSAB associate to explain their lies.
Jessica 16 February 2025
Yes, indeed I sent parts of the text from this blog with my email first to some people that have masters in Psychology, but not in dog training. Since they declared BS, I asked you permission to sent an invitation with your email to some dog trainers an behavioral dog trainers to have an interaction. Sorry if I was misleading, most of this people I didnt reach them with my personal email. I just did it now with yours because I saw that they declare that they work with dog aggression. And the people I reached that dont work with dogs I just ask them with my email If they are willing to do a zoom call, but the ones I sent that text with your email are other people that apparently work with dogs, but I didnt talk to them ever but could be interesting since they’re in the dog world. They are Chirag Patel, Michael Shikashio, Kellie Snider and other one that now I jus forgot the full name. Try to her Chirag sending him a video of you working with a dog! I think thats better that some text because they will say they are busy to read, but watching/hearing a video is easier since you can do it while yo do something else.
Cheers.
Now I sent that text with tour email to some people
monty 16 February 2025 — Post author
Oh, would I ever love to get Michael Shikashio – expert in behaviour and euthanasia – on a podcast. Trust me, he knows who I am – I made a video for him already and tagged him. He’s too scared to utter my name – let alone do a podcast. Same for Robert Cabral, Larry Krohn, Zak George, Haz Othman. They are all too scared.
If you can get any one of these people to do a zoom call – I would be grateful. Bunch of liars, the lot of them.
monty 16 February 2025 — Post author
Tell them that I am free for the rest of the day.
monty 16 February 2025 — Post author
And by the way, this is the video I did for Michael… It was created in June 2024 – and Michael was tagged in it. Listen for yourself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DvZOv8Gbgso
monty 16 February 2025 — Post author
You wanted to open a can of worms? Here’s the first reaction video – Chirag Patel and his lies exposed about emotions. I’ve tagged him on youtube. You can feel free to send it to him to make sure he sees it. Kellie is next – then it’s Shikashio. Lets see if we can rattle some cages and get one of these people on zoom to explain their lies. I am unafraid – but they are too scared to face me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iUo2M2oTvaM
Jessica 17 February 2025
Look at Victoria Stillwell. She says she works with aggression and se includes links like these on some Youtube comments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THmtv3IP1pQ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_cuTgtoADQE
Did you received any email from the other people I sent it to?
At least anyone responded? Michael Shikashio, Kellie Snider or other.
monty 17 February 2025 — Post author
Stilwell ranks right up there with Zak George for idiocy. And if you think I’m going to hear back from any of these idiots? You’re sorely mistaken. I’ve already posted a video to Chirag calling him out for lying. Think he’s going to respond? Not a chance in hell. Neither will any of the rest of the names you drop. They are all liars. And you can feel free to prove it to yourself – by actually sitting down and reading some books. I’ll be doing a video later to Kellie on her bullshit “CAT” dog training. Shiksashio wouldn’t dare utter my name, he’s too scared. And you can feel free to tell all these people what I say!
If you can get any of them to do a zoom call? I’m all ears. Good luck.
Jessica 18 February 2025
You got any other response from anyone else? Apart from Chirag.
monty 18 February 2025 — Post author
As expected – no. These people know who I am and they know I’m not mucking around. None of them are going to be willing to flush their careers down the drain live on camera. I would love to get Michael Shikashio on camera, I would destroy him. And he knows it – it’s better to avoid and ignore. Don’t fight, but flight.
monty 19 February 2025 — Post author
Another one down. Pure garbage is what she’s spewing – and Fenzi has been tagged. Think I’ll get a response? Not a chance in hell. Shikashio is next.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dKYz2iZI8is
Rob Dog Trainer 20 February 2025
You have no idea about Michael Shikashio and his success with aggression cases. And also regarding Kellie. Thanks to C.A.T. a lot of dogs have been saved. One of the unique aspects of the C.A.T. method is that it considers the aggression itself as an operant behavior. This means that the aggression has an antecedent, which prepares the terrain for the behavior to appear. C.A.T doens’t think the dog is aggressive due to his temperament, emotional status, bad behaviors learned from puppy stage or because the behaviors are already inside the dog. C.A.T. afirms that aggression appears because of the contingencies in the environment. The contingency produces the emotion and therefore the behavior of barking, lunging.
monty 20 February 2025 — Post author
Then go tell them to feel free to contact me and lets do a live public consult. Or better yet – put your face on zoom and lets talk publicly for the entire world to see. Up for it?
Lets get the science out in the open cause I’m willing to bet that you couldn’t even define the word behaviour – or aggression or reactivity. Anyone that calls themselves an expert in behaviour or an expert in behavioural euthanasia shouldn’t be around dogs. Dog training is all IGP in disguise and it’s disgusting.
Rob Dog Trainer 20 February 2025
I’ll give you an Skinner definition of behavior that Kellie and his colleagues use when they teach C.AT., and my own definition of aggression.
Behavior: “The movement of an organism or its parts in a frame of reference provided by the organism itself or by various external objects or fields of focus.”
Aggression: “It is a natural response triggered by a stimulus, and essential for the survival of the species.”
You said “Then go tell them to feel free to contact me and lets do a live public consult.” How someone is going to argue with a guy like you that just insults people all the time in his videos?
monty 20 February 2025 — Post author
You’re wrong. Please try again. Better yet, you and I get on camera and hash it out. Got the balls to flush your career down the toilet live on camera?
You talk big talk from behind a keyboard.
Rob Dog Trainer 20 February 2025
While you parade your opinions like trophies, I’m here to remind you that the true battle lies not in sensationalism, but in understanding the nuances of our craft. Challenge me? Ah, you sweet, naive soul! Engaging in a spectacle that serves only to entertain doesn’t elevate discourse; it just whips up a tempest in a teapot. True mastery comes from sharing knowledge, not shouting louder than the next guy.
Your insistence on this showdown feels a bit misplaced, don’t you think? What good does it do to turn a professional discussion into a circus act? If you’re genuinely interested in the science of behavior, why not engage thoughtfully instead of making bravado-laden proclamations?
As for my credentials—my methods stand firm on a foundation of science, experience, and results. I think we’d both agree that true expertise isn’t about how loudly one can bark; it’s about how effectively one can train and transform lives. While I’m out there implementing practices like C.A.T. that genuinely help canine companions lead happier, healthier lives, you seem more fixated on proving a point that, quite frankly, only serves to inflate your own ego.
So let’s spare the camera theatrics. Instead, how about we focus on what really matters—the dogs. After all, they don’t care about our egos or who can shout the loudest; they just want us to communicate effectively, provide structure, and enhance their lives.
So here’s my invitation: instead of putting on a show, why not channel that energy into something constructive? Let’s raise the standards of canine care together, even from a distance. Because at the end of the day, the highest art form is not in the clash of personalities but in the harmony of knowledge and compassion we bring to our work. How about it, Robert? Let’s redirect this energy towards creating real impact—now that’s a performance worth applauding!
monty 20 February 2025 — Post author
It’s not my opinions – it’s not convenient to you – but I’m explaining Skinner. The entire dog training community blames B.F Skinner – but not one trainer in thousands that I’ve talked to has read a book from Skinner. They all learn all about Skinner – but Skinner should be mandatory reading. If Skinner were mandatory reading – you would be out of a job. They blame Skinner for the quadrants of dog training – and it’s pure ignorance. Konrad Most is what dog trainers are pushing. But I’m willing to bet that you haven’t read his book either have you? The real quadrants of dog training are Primary and Secondary Inducements – and Primary and Secondary Inducive Compulsions. Nothing to do with positive and negative reinforcement. But that’s not convenient to your wallet. There is no money in science.
I am all about the dog and their owner and not making any money off this. But that’s not convenient either is it? I want every owner out there to learn the science so they can fire people like you. Liars and cheats that don’t understand what a behaviour is.
Rob Dog Trainer 20 February 2025
Your passionate argument for adhering strictly to the principles laid out by B.F. Skinner and the works of early dog training theorists highlights your commitment to effective training methods. However, the landscape of canine training has evolved significantly, and it’s important to consider contemporary research that expands on these foundational ideas.
While operant conditioning is a core component of training, recent studies have shown that positive reinforcement methods, which prioritize the well-being of the dog, can lead to better long-term outcomes. Research published in the Journal of Veterinary Behavior indicates that training methods based on positive reinforcement not only enhance learning but also improve the dog-human bond (Hiby et al., 2004).
Moreover, the work of ethologists like John Paul Scott and John L. Fuller has emphasized the importance of understanding the social structure and behavioral needs of dogs. This perspective suggests that training based solely on outdated theories could neglect the complex emotional and social needs of dogs. A study from the Journal of Animal Science demonstrated that dogs trained using a mix of positive reinforcement and an understanding of their social behaviors exhibited more desirable traits compared to those trained with aversive methods (Blackwell et al., 2008).
Regarding your concerns about financial motivations in the industry, it’s worth noting that organizations such as the American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior advocate for evidence-based, humane training practices. They emphasize that understanding a dog’s emotional state and applying a variety of methodologies allows for more effective and ethical training.
Additionally, the CALL (Companion Animals and Local Livestock) program emphasizes the importance of educational frameworks and ongoing professional development. This ensures trainers stay updated on the latest research, rather than relying solely on historical methods.
While the foundational work of Skinner is indeed significant, the best practices in dog training today are multifaceted and grounded in modern science. Collaboration and a willingness to embrace a wider range of methodologies will ultimately lead to better outcomes for our canine companions.
I will stop now, since I think you’re a person who suffers from some kind of a problem and than only believes on one thing. I read B.F. Skinner work and also Konrad Most Dog Training Manual book.
monty 20 February 2025 — Post author
Keep your answers short – cause I’m not wasting my time with all this. Define some more words.
What is Positive Reinforcement? Define it? Define Negative Reinforcement? You couldn’t define the word behaviour. And one more?
American Veterinary Society of Animal Behavior? Glad you brought them up. They literally bastardized B.F Skinners book About Behaviourism. They flat out bastardized it. Liars. Welcome to Zak Georges “scientific consensus”. If there was any science to it – they would just call it science. But they can’t.
Rob Dog Trainer 20 February 2025
Don’t worry, I won’t write more than the next thing: I am not going to answer more of your questions; your tone suggests there’s some deeper psychological issue that I really don’t want to get into. If you’re so eager to attack other dog trainers, why not direct some of that energy toward Robert Cabral? Are you afraid he’ll shut you down again like he did before? Your insistence on standing by your point of view might come off as a strong defense, but it raises questions about your willingness to engage with seasoned trainers who have proven methodologies. Instead of dismissing those who disagree with you, perhaps it’s time to consider whether your approach is genuinely constructive for the dogs and their owners, rather than just a platform to elevate your ego.
I find it interesting how you never show us what the dogs are like before you arrive or how they’re doing now after your intervention. It raises a lot of questions about the effectiveness of your methods. If you’re claiming to have transformative results, shouldn’t we see the full picture? Moreover, your tendency to recycle the same assessment videos feels a bit stagnant. If you’re only working with a limited number of dogs, that hardly seems impressive. How can you genuinely claim expertise when you’re offering the same case studies without showcasing broader progress or adaptation to different situations?
monty 20 February 2025 — Post author
I love when trainers come at me, the harder the better. I have all my ducks in a row – and I can back up everything I say with the actual science and videos. You should watch some of my videos working with dogs – you might learn something. Have a great day and feel free to not come back.
Trainers are cowards.
monty 20 February 2025 — Post author
And by the way? Robert Cabral? That SOB is too scared to utter my name. He threatened to sue me, told him to go for it.
monty 20 February 2025 — Post author
And before you run off the mouth saying that Cabral doesn’t know my name? lol. He was paramount in taking down my youtube channel. They all know who I am cause I love to rattle cages and make noise.
https://rumble.com/v5s78r5-heres-the-proof-that-dog-trainers-took-down-my-youtube-channel….html
Rob Dog Trainer 22 February 2025
Robert, it’s frankly amusing to witness how you relish the drama and confrontation instead of engaging in productive conversations. You throw around terms and claims like confetti, but let’s be honest—when it comes to actual results in dog training, it’s the effectiveness of our methods that matters, not who can shout louder. Not jus that, but you don’t know how to define any word. It’s so sad.
Your insistence that everyone else is a coward while you play the provocateur is pretty rich. Real courage lies in the pursuit of knowledge and the humility to learn from others, not in lobbing insults from your podium. Your challenge to prove your worth in front of the camera sounds like a desperate ploy to inflate your own ego rather than contribute meaningfully to the field.
And let’s address the so-called bastards of Skinner’s work. If you think dog training can be boiled down to your rigid interpretations, you’re missing the whole point. Dog training is not only about behaviorist theory; it’s also about understanding the animal in front of us. Ignoring the complexities of their emotions and social needs while clinging to outdated principles? That’s what I’d call ignorant.
Stop hiding behind your self-righteous assertions and start examining the broader picture. You might find that true mastery in this field comes from collaboration, knowledge sharing, and a genuine love for the dogs—not dragging other trainers through the mud to elevate your own stature.
So go ahead—continue making noise. But remember, at the end of the day, the dogs aren’t interested in your theatrics. They need effective, compassionate training. Maybe it’s time to refocus your energy on their welfare instead of your personal battles. That’s where the real impact lies.
monty 22 February 2025 — Post author
I’ve been watching as Robert Cabral, Larry Krohn and many others – and in Krohns own words – manipulate pet dog trainers to see the genius of IGP dog training. Just use all of our tools to stop behaviours, shut down the behaviours. And I watched as millions of dogs died behaviourally as a result of all this garbage.
You think you’re the first one to come at me? I’ve been dealing with this shit for 20 years now – and I have been attacked by dog trainers like you wouldn’t believe. Now it’s my turn and they aren’t liking it. I would so love to get Cabral, or Krohn or Zak George on video. But they wouldn’t dare risk exposing their lies.
Rob Dog Trainer 22 February 2025
Hi, by the way, I work with dogs and have successfully fixed many behavioral issues for my clients, especially regarding aggression. I recently watched your video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mbPmoZIWJog
I would like to know if you managed to resolve the aggression issue of the dog toward anyone entering the car while it’s with the family member the woman mentions. Are you willing to let the dog attack any passengers trying to get in if that person is already inside the car? With the C.A.T. technique, you could help this family and ensure that the dog never tries to attack an innocent person attempting to enter the car, such as a cousin, an aunt, an uncle, or a friend.
monty 22 February 2025 — Post author
It’s not about the car – it’s about the dogs insecurity. Fear – why is the dog afraid? I don’t care about the resulting behaviours – the dog is in fight or flight. Negative reinforcements shape behaviours to fight and flight – caused by cortisol. What is fight and flight? Aggression and reactivity. But trainers want to train cortisol right? Oh no, nevermind that – they want to control and manage the behaviours – shut them down – USING IGP DOG TRAINING. That’s all dog training is – IGP in disguise. And the treats, the ecollars, the prongs, the crates, the muzzles – are all tools of IGP DOG TRAINING – that don’t belong in the behaviour ring.
Welcome to the scam called Dog training. What Cabral himself calls the Pet Care Conglomerate.
Rob Dog Trainer 22 February 2025
Enough with the drama and hyperbole! It’s clear you’re trying to paint yourself as some sort of martyr in this ridiculous battle of wills, and honestly? It’s tiresome. You act like you’re the only one who cares about dog welfare, but let’s be real—everyone in this field has their heart in the right place, even if you disagree with their methods.
You’re ranting about “millions of dogs dying behaviorally” like some kind of warning siren, yet you’re not even considering that your approach might be just as dogmatic as those you criticize. Who do you think you are, standing on a soapbox claiming to possess the truth?
Instead of just throwing insults and demanding videos, why not roll up your sleeves and offer solid alternatives? Your wild accusations won’t change the fact that dog training is complex, and a one-size-fits-all mentality isn’t the answer. You’re wasting your energy on these pointless “exposés” instead of putting that passion toward something that actually helps dogs.
Look, it’s clear you’re passionate, but that passion is turning toxic. If you want to make a real impact, start working with people instead of against them. Stop seeing every disagreement as a battle and start looking for ways to collaborate for the sake of the dogs we all claim to care about.
So, keep barking and ranting if that’s what you want. Just know that it’s not helping anyone—least of all the dogs you’re supposedly fighting for.
monty 22 February 2025 — Post author
Want to know the reality? I’m a terminally ill man, been dying the last 5 years. But you think this is about me? I’m not trying to be a social media star, and trust me – I could give a shit what people think about me. I’m in this for dogs and their owners – and I’m doing all this for free – my last great act. I’m not making a cent in the process.
You came to me with your hackles up – you weren’t interested in a conversation. I offer all kinds of alternatives. The facebook group is full of dog owners that fired their dog trainers – and will never hire another. Dog trainers should be concerned cause dog training is crashing and burning.
Rob Dog Trainer 22 February 2025
Are you seriously going to lecture me about fear and insecurity like you’re some kind of dog-training oracle? Let’s clear the air: dogs don’t have the luxury of sitting down for a therapy session to unpack their “insecurities.” When a dog tries to bite someone entering a car, it’s not about their feelings—it’s about addressing a dangerous behavior, plain and simple!
You keep throwing around big words like “cortisol” and acting like you’ve uncovered the secrets of the universe. Sure, fear plays a role, but guess what? So does the instinct to protect territory! Shutting down bad behavior doesn’t mean we ignore the root cause; it means we manage it effectively so no one gets hurt. You want to sit there and philosophize while innocent people face a potential dog bite? That’s rich!
You’re so caught up in your theories that you’re missing the real-world application. This isn’t a “scam”; it’s a field that’s constantly evolving. There’s no one-size-fits-all solution, and your black-and-white thinking is limiting you. So, before you preach about the “Pet Care Conglomerate” and whatever other conspiracy theories you’ve concocted, maybe take a step back and consider that not everyone sees training the same way you do—and that’s okay!
If you want to have a productive conversation, bring some evidence, share some experiences, and stop casting shadows on trainers who are simply trying to help dogs and their families. Otherwise, keep ranting in your echo chamber, where you can cry about the state of dog training without actually contributing to any kind of change.
monty 22 February 2025 — Post author
Oh, dangerous behaviour? Do define that for me? What is a dangerous dog? And should that dog be euthanized??
Rob Dog Trainer 22 February 2025
Your courage in sharing your condition adds a significant layer of gravity to this discussion. However, let’s not conflate personal struggles with our responsibilities in dog training. It’s commendable that you’re passionate about advocating for dogs, but that passion should be rooted in collaboration and genuine dialogue, rather than combative rhetoric.
You mentioned wanting this to be your last act. A constructive recommendation would be to write a book. It doesn’t have to be long, and you don’t need a translator, cover designer, or any other resources. You can simply upload it to Amazon KDP for free, allowing your perspective on dog training, dog care, and helping dog owners to reach a wider audience.
You claim to offer alternatives and have a community of dog owners who have “fired” their trainers. I recognize that there are many poor dog trainers out there, just as there are subpar veterinarians. However, from what I’ve observed in your group, the common advice given to those with aggressive dogs typically includes:
Fire your dog trainer. Trust your dog. (While trust is essential, it is a multifaceted concept that can have conflicting interpretations depending on the situation. Hence, this advice can feel superfluous.)
Use a flirt pole to engage your dog’s instincts. (This is indeed a great tool, but it won’t fundamentally change your dog’s behavior.)
Tire your dog out with long walks. (While exercise can lead to a happier dog through the release of endorphins, it does not address underlying behavioral issues. Once the dog has energy again, the original behavior may resurface.)
I’m not suggesting that everyone must work with a trainer; however, it’s crucial first to ensure that their dog is healthy. Issues such as digestive problems, thyroid imbalances, arthritis, limping, dermatitis, allergies, and more can all trigger aggression and may be the root cause. If, after addressing all potential health issues, your dog remains aggressive, it likely indicates a desire to distance themselves from the identified stimulus. In such cases, it’s been proven that C.A.T (Constructional Aggression Treatment) can yield significant changes in just one week. Counterconditioning and Desensitization are essential methods for managing your dog’s behavior, and C.A.T. is specifically designed to benefit the dog. One is for managing, the other one is just temporary.
monty 22 February 2025 — Post author
I’m not reading that – but you said dog training. Does dog training belong in the behaviour ring? I don’t train dogs – I work strictly with behaviour. I stay in my lane. Too bad dog trainers wouldn’t stay in their lane? But there is no money in just training dogs for different jobs. And I know why.
You’re the one that brought up Cabral. Go listen to his words – if you don’t have the tool, you can’t train the dog. If I take all trainers tools away – you’re nothing more than frauds. That’s reality. What are dog trainers doing in the behaviour ring? And now we have vets in the behaviour ring – and they need to lose their license.
Rob Dog Trainer 22 February 2025
This is to the other message since I can’t reply towards it directly:
Let’s cut to the chase. When I talk about “dangerous behavior,” I’m referring to any actions from a dog that can pose a risk to people or other animals, such as aggression. This can stem from various causes. The goal isn’t to label a dog as “dangerous” and decide their fate based on that label; rather, it’s about addressing safety, in this case for the family members/friends that could enter the car.
No dog should be euthanized without first assessing their overall health and well-being (if the dog is suffering and doesn’t want to move, walk, eat, etc. I would do it, but that it’s personal, I don’t want the dog to suffer and live in pain). Responsible training focuses on understanding the underlying causes. It is true that most of this dogs stay in shelters (the owners abandon them) and, most of them never see the day of light because the workers label them as dangerous, unfortunately. There is few people that want to have a dog that behaves like these, and that’s because society today doesn’t want any “problem” at home that could interfere in their lives. It’s disgusting but it’s the truth, I have seen owners giving their dogs even because they have to move somewhere else, and the dog is not even aggressive.
I’m not advocating for rash actions but rather for a thoughtful approach that prioritizes the safety of both the dog and those around it. It’s essential to know that this dogs can be helped with the right support.
Rob Dog Trainer 22 February 2025
Okay, don’t read it then. So, let me just say this: you claim to focus on behavior, yet you aren’t a behaviorist. You’re doing the same thing that many dog trainers do when they branch out into fields they don’t truly understand. And no, reading a book doesn’t make you a behaviorist any more than watching a cooking show makes you a chef.
P.S.: And yes, you claim to be a behaviorist. When I checked your channel, I saw a video of you walking with a client’s dog in a dog park. A woman approached you and asked, ‘Excuse me, are you the behaviorist?’ suggesting that people recognize you by that title there. You replied, ‘Yes.’
monty 22 February 2025 — Post author
There are 2 primary kinds of behaviourists – one is methodological. Methodological behaviourism is dog training. The other is a Radical behaviourist – yes. Do you actually know what that means? What it entails? Any idea? Care to answer that one simple question?
monty 19 February 2025 — Post author
Here’s a video for Michael Shikashio. Feel free to make sure he sees it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIkzLlDWB5I
Rob Dog Trainer 22 February 2025
Yes, I know the difference since I had to learn about it at university. For your information, in the C.A.T. method, they heavily base their practices on principles from radical behaviorism, utilizing the work of B.F. Skinner and Herbert Goldiamond.
And, you know, I won’t continue further. It’s disappointing that you don’t seem willing to read or try to understand anything, and you still try to make questions trying to make like I don’t know shit. It’s honestly a bit frustrating. I take the time to read what you say and make an effort to comprehend it because I recognize that some of the things you do and say are valid.
monty 22 February 2025 — Post author
What is Radical behaviourism? Why can’t trainers answer a simple question?
Replace dog with human. that’s radical behaviourism. But that’s not allowed under Methodological behaviourism.
Rob Dog Trainer 22 February 2025
Yes, radical behaviorism indeed works for both humans and dogs. That’s why the constructional approach is based on how humans react when they face aversive stimuli, whether through fight or flight. I could quote Goldiamond if you want, but I doubt you would read it anyway. And radical behaviourism basically emphasizes the influence of the environment on the behavior itself.
Now, since I live in Europe, good night.
monty 22 February 2025 — Post author
Have a good night. I also seen your stance on euthanasia. I’ve been the last chance for alot of dogs, haven’t lost one yet. Why? Once you understand what a behaviour is? Reward and punishment is off the table – and behavioural euth is the most extreme form of punishment that shouldn’t be happening at all.
Rob Dog Trainer 23 February 2025
I was talking about severe pain, illness, or something similar that could affect the quality of life of the dog, not a behavioral problem. I have never considered euthanasia for any dog. Even when people have come to me to abandon their dogs, I have relocated them to sanctuaries until they find someone willing to take them. I prefer that for them rather than having them be dead. And with C.A.T., when I work with dogs, I don’t need to use prong collars, e-collars, slip leads, or treats, toys, or anything similar. I have five dogs of my own (three males and two females), and they have never needed treats, corrections (punishment), or toys. They already have me there for them.
monty 23 February 2025 — Post author
Every behaviour has a cause – it’s causality. Cause and effect. So, lets get back to CAT – Constructional Aggression Treatment. What pisses you off? What makes you aggressive? What would make you close your fist and strike me? How is that act of aggression supposed to be “treated”? What treatment exists? You couldn’t help your actions – you couldn’t control your behaviours. So what treatment is there? Aggression is NOT a condition in first place – let alone a condition you can fix – so what “treatment” exists? Aggression is a symptom – why are trainers so focused on treating symptoms? What is the cause of your aggressions – as a human animal?
And by the way – you have dog trainer in your name. Maybe you should choose a different name – cause dog trainers don’t belong in behaviour.
Rob Dog Trainer 23 February 2025
Now you’ve changed the subject from euthanasia to behavior. Before a C.A.T. session, we ask a whole range of questions to determine if the dog may have any underlying health issues that could be contributing to aggression, and we always want to know what is the stimulus that produces the aggression, such as: pain, fear, predation, defense, dominance, territorial behavior, or maternal instincts, among others. In cases where the dog does not have any health concerns, using C.A.T. helps the owners significantly. Most of them, after just one week, can have their dog off-leash around the dogs that their dog was previously fearful or aggressive. One week. Doing nothing. No treats, no toys, no flirt poles, no prong collars, no e-collars, no slip leads, no need to say any word, no need to distract the dog from the trigger. Nothing at all.
It’s essential to emphasize that the results seen in such a short timeframe highlight the effectiveness of compassionate approach. This not only enhances the quality of life for the dog but also strengthens the bond between the dog and their owner.
Yeah, I have “dog trainer” in my email and in my name, so what? I mainly work with behavior cases, since I dislike agility and all other sports. The only thing I like is scent work, as it can help some dogs calm themselves. I could say the same thing about you. You’re known in dog parks around your area as “the behaviorist” (some people have asked you “are you the dog behaviorist?” in some of your videos, walking client’s dogs and you said yes). As I mentioned before, reading a book by one behaviorist doesn’t make you a behaviorist any more than watching a cooking show makes you a chef.
You think I do this for the money? I charge 10 bucks 1 hour, and if the dog’s client needs 1 hour and a half or 2 hours I don’t charge extra time. I care about the dog.
monty 2 March 2025 — Post author
$10 an hour? Do you have any clue how much pro bono work that I’ve done over the years?
I fully agree, reading one book doesn’t make you a behaviourist – that takes alot of books and alot of years. and I have alot of years invested. But if people simply read one book – they would understand that the entire system of dog training is a complete and utter crock of crap.
Rob Dog Trainer 2 March 2025
No reply to my comment? Why?
Well, I see that in this blog post one person called Jessica was sending emails towards dog trainers and behaviorists for you to argue with them on a Zoom call (I see Kellie Snider, Michael Shikashio and Chirag Patel).
Anyone responded? Chirag did but since he saw your violent language he didn’t wanna to engage with you. Michael should have responded, but what was your reply? I know him . We write each other by email once in a while, and I am 100% sure he responded to you. The same to Kellie Snider, she responds to emails.
If you want to prove that your way or dealing with dogs and behavior is the right one, make a Zoom call with one of them and prove all of us wrong, Robert. If you need to act more classy do it and probably some people would be willing to engage with you.
monty 2 March 2025 — Post author
You didn’t even read this blog did you? Chirag got back to me. do you really think they are denying because of who I am? Or is it because they don’t want to be destroy for their lies on camera? Just whose side are you on?
Lets talk about 3 letter acronyms – cause they are all the rage. CDD came up in the group – caused a big old stink. Just another one pushing a 3 letter acronym – claiming to be all about psychology – but it’s all based solely on Jaak Panksepp. As much as I love Jaak’s work – the man is simply NOT a psychologist. So where exactly is the psychology? They are making it up as they go along – a whole lot of bullshit wrapped up in a bit of truth to make money. CAT is no different. LAT? BAT? BAT 2.0? How many more 3 letter acronyms are going to appear – and funny how they are all asking for money. But little old me isn’t asking for a penny.
And if you think that Michael Shikashio would dare get on camera and destroy his own career in the process? you’re sorely mistaken. I have been tormenting dog trainers in the background – driving those narcissists and sociopaths off the deep end. But the time for psyche games is nearing it’s end. I’ve got everything I need.
Rob Dog Trainer 2 March 2025
In the beginning of my second paragraph I said that Chirag did respond to you, but he saw how you spoke about dog training and he probably thought you weren’t try to discuss things rather than impose. If you were less “violent” with the way you say things probably some of them would be willing to interact with you.
I am on the side that wants to help dogs, that’s it.
And you’re wrong again. Jesús, the professor that asked Kellie Snider if she wanted to prove her point working with aggression cases (C.A.T. came from that), provides, if you text him by email, and for free, and hour and a half video of C.A.T. explaining what is it. Ask for it, is a webinar from 2021.
HIS EMAIL: Jesus.Rosales-Ruiz@unt.edu
And he will give you the video, which you can react to for free.
I do think some of those people could argue with you about it.
monty 2 March 2025 — Post author
I would love to have a conversation with them. Do you think think that Michael Shikashio is an expert in aggression? Expert in behavioral euthanasia? This is a fecking joke – cause there is money in killing dogs. And they are lining up to kill dogs. I don’t need to get him on camera to destroy him – and that is my very purpose right now.
Millions of dogs have been killed behaviourally by these SOB’s that can’t even define the word behavior. How many dog owners lives have been destroyed by all this garbage? Are you defending all this crap? I’m still trying to figure that out. Consider every dog trainer, every behaviourist and every vet behaviourist on notice. Cause I’m coming after them with both barrels very shortly.
And you can feel free to explain to all your friends in the dog community that they have had their fun, they have had their time in the sun – but that time is coming to an end.
I’m terminally ill – I’m a dying man – and I could honestly care less about what people think about me. This isn’t about me – it’s about saving the dog itself. And consider this my last great act. Cause dog owners themselves are waking up – and it’s not me that you need to worry about. There is a war coming in dog training alright – dog owners against trainers etc – and trainers are going to lose big time. And the ones that are asleep are in for one hell of a bucket of cold water coming their way. I could care less about dog trainers – or what they think of me.
Tell your friends what my intentions are.
Rob Dog Trainer 2 March 2025
So, if you believe that the people working in the animal/dog world don’t want to have a meeting with you to discuss these matters, why not bring in a psychologist who works with humans to discuss B.F. Skinner? That person has nothing to lose when it comes to dog training. And you could show the world the reality of Positive Reinforcement and Negative Reinforcement and how to “deal” with dogs. No?
There has to be someone in the world that would like to engage in that kind of conversation. I am not a behaviorist and I don’t have a psychology degree, but every book I have read about the matter regarding dogs has said the same thing about the quadrants. None of them says what you say. If you can find ONE person that has the same opinion as you and has those studies, bring him/her in and let us know we’re wrong.
monty 2 March 2025 — Post author
People like you are fascinating from a psychology perspective. Human psychology? Nothing goes unnoticed with me.
The funniest part of dog trainers, behaviourists and vet behaviourists? Not once have I ever gotten a comment on any public behavioural consult I’ve done with dog owners. The dog isn’t the problem – the human is. The dog is not broken – the dog is so simple. It’s the human being that is the train wreck – it’s the human that needs help. Why? Because they have been lied to by everyone involved in Robert Cabrals and Zak Georges “Pet Care Conglomerate”. Vet behaviourists? These vets need to lose their license – they shouldn’t be anywhere near dogs. Imagine – a vet that doesn’t understand the animal response to an increase of cortisol and adrenaline in the animals body that is fight (aggression) and flight (reactivity). Trainers want to train it, behaviourists want to shape it – and vets want to kill it.
Go watch my initial consult with Zach over his Shiba Inu Pepper. His vet, his trainer and his behaviourist were calling him DEMANDING that he bring his dog in so they could kill that dog. Watch the follow up with Zach and his girlfriend. The dog is easy – it’s the humans that need help. These dog owners are now getting angry, and they are talking to others.
Do you realize that behavioural euthanasia has become a multi billion dollar industry in North America? It’s no wonder why everyone is out to kill the dog. It’s flesh for cash industry. And once you understand what a behaviour really is? Then punishment is off the table – and behavioural euthanasia shouldn’t be happening at all – it’s ‘the ultimate in punishment – but the ultimate in Positive Reinforcement. Skinner himself would be disgusted if he seen what’s being blamed on him.
Am I angry? Do I deserve to be angry? There are alot of dog owners that are angry – especially the dog owners that killed their dog because of these idiots that can’t even define the word behaviour. The winds of change are blowing.
Rob Dog Trainer 3 March 2025
If you claim that you’ve never been called back by any of your clients (it’s a lie, since Alexandar Dittman did), I have two questions for you:
Why there is no video in your Youtube account showing the behavior of the animal prior you’re there and after you’re there helping the owners? It’s easy to show when you’re there. The important thing is: it was the animal so aggressive before you were there, as you say on your videos, or not? And afterwards, were the owners able to live a normal life with their pets, or they’re still having problems with the reactivity or the aggression?
Most dog trainers out there show the whole process. I checked yesterday your Youtube channel to see if you showed the email answers from Shikashio and Kellie Snider, but you didn’t. You only showed Chirag Patel’s one.
Also I saw a new video about a foreign traine training two female dogs fighting in the house. I don’t agree the way he is handling the situation, but you kept saying “oh, they have muzzles, remove them and see what happens”, and in the comments you posted his social media and a link to his TikTok that show BOTH DOGS WITHOUT THE MUZZLE LIVING HAPPILY TOGETHER. That desarticulates all you were saying on the reaction.
monty 3 March 2025 — Post author
First of all, Dittmann wasn’t a client of mine. She’s another scam artist. Garrett Wing fired her ass when she got in bed with the real science then she turned on me cause I didn’t have a job for her. and she fucked herself in the process.
Show the whole process of what? tormenting the dog? Abusing the dog? You haven’t read anything Skinner have you? Operant Conditioning is all about that first introduction to anything new in the environment. The outcome is going to be positive or negative. when you understand that – you’ll understand my videos. I don’t care about behaviours – I can see the same behaviours from any animal in fight or flight – human included. Thats the reality.
Yeah, get rid of the muzzles. Muzzles are punishment – preemptive punishment cause the trainers are scare.
Rob Dog Trainer 3 March 2025
It’s possible Dittman turned against you because of your questionable credibility. You haven’t provided evidence to support your claims; that’s the bottom line. All your videos featuring dog clients lack context on how the dogs behaved before your involvement. It’s unnecessary to put the dog through distress; the owners could document their behavior through recordings, as you’ve suggested. Furthermore, if the dogs truly are doing better following your advice, why not record them now? The dogs don’t understand what a camera is and wouldn’t be affected by it. This raises questions about whether your clients are genuine or misleading about their dogs’ improvements. Or even if they are real and no fake clients, since your videos don’t show many.
For instance, in the video with the Shiba Inu clients, there was no substantial feedback from them. Their comments amounted to a claim of improvement, stating they stopped medication, didn’t start using CBD oil yet, and now they allow the dog to “do want he wants to do, with some rules like a toddler”. This seems far-fetched. Frankly, it’s hard for anyone to believe. No prove of that.
Moreover, I noticed something curious on your website. A former client named Rosy appears to have suddenly become a behaviorist after reading a few books and is a member of the team! That’s quite a leap! And then there’s Peter, who just began his journey in the dog world not long ago (according to one of his early post!), ¿now also claiming to be a behaviorist himself?. That’s impressive but raises eyebrows.
The most troubling aspect is your attempt to dodge certain issues. In your latest reaction video, you posted a comment linking to a dog trainer’s social media. The TikTok link video you shared shows the two female dogs that exhibited household aggression without muzzles and together with no problem whatsoever. Did you even review that clip? It undermines your entire reaction video. That dog trainer resolved the owner’s issue in just one hour!
I challenge you, Peter, and Rosy to demonstrate your skills:
Record a session with a client’s REAL aggressive dog without any tools. Show how the dog behaved before (you can request the client to provide footage if he has it or have the owner film the dog’s reactions before you go there to see what you will encounter), and then after your intervention, have the owner record the dog’s improved behavior. Let’s see if the dog is fine.
I am afraid to say it, but probably neither of you three is going to do it. Frauds.
monty 3 March 2025 — Post author
LOL. Dog trainer you are. And there is no changing your mind is there? If you want to know all about Alexandra dittmann and the scam artist that she really is? Join the group on facebook and ask about her. She did 2 glowing video recommendations to me – oh she was preaching the science of Skinner in the group. When she realize she wasn’t getting a job, she cut over to Zak george and his scientific consensus – that garbage and she is knowingly pushing that garbage. She’s selling herself as a crossover trainer – when the only experience that she has is working on the social media teams of Will Atherton and Garrett Wing – both of which failed to train her dogs. She never trained a dog in her life – but here she is on youtube. Go research her husband – Free Spirit.
I’m going to send this comment to both Rosy and Pete. If you really want to call out Pete and Rosy? Get into the group and I dare you to call them out yourself. I’m not going to speak for either of them – cause neither one is a “dog trainer”. Rosy is a dog owner – and Pete is using his 2 Tibetan Mastiffs as mentor dogs.
https://www.facebook.com/groups/540079038188077 – Feel free to read. But if you start grandstanding, I’ll have no qualms about getting up to my neck in your ass. And I will deal with you publicly all over social media. You watch out for your garbage assumptions.
monty 3 March 2025 — Post author
I can’t wait to see you tangle with Rosy…. Oh you’re going to learn a hard lesson on respect and courtesy lol. I sent both Pete And Rosy your comments. Stay tuned. I’m sure they will be in touch later today. Trainers never learn to put down the shovel.
I can’t stop laughing.
Rob Dog Trainer 3 March 2025
Robert, it’s amusing how you throw around labels like “scam artist” while you’re the one caught in a whirlwind of paranoia and conspiracy theories. If you think your drama-filled rants prove anything, you’re sorely mistaken. Instead of backing your wild claims with solid evidence, all you do is shift blame and call out others without any real substance. If Alexandra Dittmann’s work doesn’t hold water, that’s on her and her credibility—if she wants to play in the big leagues, she better come prepared.
You keep avoiding the fact that you did a reaction video to a dog trainer that helped an owner with two dogs fighting in the same house. You said in the video “They have muzzles, remove them now and see what happens”. Well, in the TikTok link you put on the comments of the video there it is, both dogs recorder by the owner herself are together and without muzzles living without any problem. It hurts, I know.
If your crew thinks they can stand the heat, let them come forward and demonstrate their skills. But I have a feeling, much like you, they’ll just keep hiding behind insults and bravado instead of showing real results.
This whole “war” you keep talking about? It’s no match —because while you’re busy flinging mud, many of us are putting in the work to actually improve the lives of dogs. So before you send your minions to tangle with me, maybe they should take a good look at your own shaky foundations. If you really care about the dogs, back it up with action instead of this theatrics. Time to step up or step aside.
So while you try to find your voice in the chaos you’ve created, just remember: in this dog-eat-dog world, there’s always a cat watching from the sidelines. Good luck in your battle, champ!
monty 3 March 2025 — Post author
I call a spade a spade and a fraud a fraud. I’ll be back later. You should have checked out Rosy’s youtube channel and Petes before you opened your mouth.
I am going to call you out publicly later today on youtube. I’ll be sure to tag you. Hang tight – after all you’ve said – you are not going to hide in the comments section here.
Rob Dog Trainer 3 March 2025
I’ve checked them. Peter seems like a good guy. Unfortunately, one of the dogs I saw him working with used a muzzle from the very beginning. Sad coming from a guy that believes muzzles are not meant to be used (no matter what the client thinks about them). Also, he charges $250 for an in-person session. All dog trainers I know from Munich charge between 50€ -120€. All about the money . As for Rosy’s channel, it’s not very impressive since most of the videos feature her own dog, and I don’t know how the dog behaved before the first video.
monty 3 March 2025 — Post author
I can’t wait til you meet Rosy. She’s spent 10’s of thousands on trainers, and she’s not a happy woman over it. I’ll be in touch on youtube, you are going to learn to look before you leap – and it’s going to be the hard way. You made alot of unwarranted accusations and you are going to explain yourself to joe public.
monty 3 March 2025 — Post author
and just to verify – this is you correct?
https://www.facebook.com/robthedogtrainer3
monty 3 March 2025 — Post author
And by the way, go talk to Mark Dubose on youtube. He’s pushing the same message and it’s all B.F Skinner now. We are all pushing the same message and I love the fact that dog trainers are flipping out over all of this.
Rob Dog Trainer 3 March 2025
No, that’s not me. I used “Dog Trainer” in my username here, but my social media has my last name, so don’t worry, you won’t find me. And no, I won’t be giving you my social media; I’m sure you’d send your minions after me.
Mark Dubose! Oh, yes! The guy who doesn’t have any videos working with a client’s dog. The guy who used to rely on punishment-based methods and all kinds of tools. Then, poor guy, he found you and got indoctrinated by your misunderstanding of basic behavioral principles and your fake interpretations of BF Skinner’s work. You both clearly missed the memo when it comes to understanding behavior science. Let me endorse you once again: Positive reinforcement, in its true sense, means adding a pleasant stimulus following a desired behavior, which increases the likelihood of that behavior happening again. This isn’t “serious punishment” like you claim when you talk about using treats. The idea that PR somehow resembles punishment is straight-up wrong, and behavioral science agrees with that. Also, the whole notion that for dogs to experience a positive outcome they sometimes need to feel pain? LOL. Operant conditioning works on the principle of shaping behavior through consequences—not some twisted idea that you have to experience both sides of pain and pleasure to learn. There are plenty of studies showing that animals and humans can associate behaviors with positive outcomes without the need for negative experiences.
And let’s talk about Skinner’s pigeon experiments, something you like to mention A LOT. You keep saying that Skinner turned pigeons into “pathological gamblers” using variable reinforcement schedules. That’s a total misinterpretation of his work. Skinner wasn’t trying to create addictive behaviors; he was investigating how reinforcement schedules affect behavior. The pigeons weren’t “addicted” to the food; they were responding to the unpredictability of the rewards. This is not the same as the addictive cycle we see with harmful substances or behaviors in humans or animals, you know, the stuff that actually causes addiction. The “gambling behavior” you’re referring to is not addiction in any form. Addiction involves a much deeper web of psychological, social, and physiological factors—something that goes way beyond simple operant conditioning. To equate the two is an oversimplification of addiction psychology.
Robert, now take a moment to read this, comprehend it, maybe learn something new, and stop your train from derailing. The tracks are getting slippery.
I hope Mark Dubose reads this and uses his brain to know you fooled him. Peter and Rosy are not just indoctrinated, but fully aware of the scam and money grabbers.
See ya!
monty 3 March 2025 — Post author
Oh my, little coward wants to remain anonymous. then you better hope that I don’t figure out who you are.
monty 3 March 2025 — Post author
This one is for you. I love the fact that dog trainers are scared of me. And you should be. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmBI0YcNRkQ
Rob Dog Trainer 4 March 2025
My friend, aren’t you clever? But let’s be real: if using my last name is the key to bravery, then I must be the most courageous ninja out here! Sometimes, a little mystery adds flair to the game, don’t you think? But hey, if my ‘anonymity’ bothers you, just think of me as the superhero who prefers to keep my identity under wraps. After all, even Clark Kent had his reasons!
Robert, bless your heart! You keep digging that hole deeper, but I can practically hear the “beware of the dog” signs rustling in the wind. You throw around fake definitions from B.F. Skinner books, it’s like you’re training a pack of Chihuahuas to bark in harmony. But let’s not pretend your arguments have any bite. You’re right about one thing: the dog isn’t the problem—it’s the human… specifically, the human who believes they’re crusading against a vast conspiracy of dog trainers while simultaneously demonstrating a mastery of deflection and denial that would amaze even the most seasoned magicians. If this were a circus, you’d be the headliner!
And isn’t it adorable how you think your little Facebook group is going to expose the depths of my dubiousness? Just wait until they see your comments about “tormenting the dog” — you might get a standing ovation for that one! Who knew that turning dog training into a courtroom drama could be so entertaining?
Now, speaking of your dynamic duo, Rosy and Peter—what a wonderful trio you all make! It’s like the “Three Musketeers” of canine confusion, but instead of honor and valor, there’s a whole lot of misunderstanding about behavioral principles. I can just picture it: Rosy, the “action” star, using her own dog as the central cast member of a series called “Rosy’s Adventures in Canine Not-So-Training.” And Peter with his Tibetan Mastiffs—talk about an emotional support group for dogs that probably need a little therapy session after those “training” sessions!
But here’s the kicker—you claim Rosy has spent “tens of thousands” on trainers and yet somehow still needs a crash course in basic behavior. It’s like she’s an artist who can’t paint but spends all her money on canvases! Maybe it’s time for a little introspection—if her experience has been so enlightening, where’s the glittering evidence? I mean, come on, if you’ve dropped that much cash, you’d expect at least a viral dog training prodigy, but all we get is “Rosy’s Doggy Diaries,” featuring her pup’s dramatic journey from couch potato to slightly less potato.
And Peter! Oh boy, with the two Tibetan Mastiffs tugging him around, you have to wonder if they’re training him or if he’s just their newest chew toy. Who needs a “dog trainer” when you have dogs strong enough to decide where the walk actually goes? Are you sure he’s not just been roped into a rescue mission for the biggest furballs in the neighborhood? Not kingdom-worthy!
But hey, I get it, really! The world needs its heroes, and you’ve chosen to don the cape of the Dog Crusader, battling the evil forces of collars, leashes, and—oh no!—positive reinforcement! Wouldn’t you know it? Those shady trainers pulling the wool over our eyes with their tricks and treats! How very original of you.
And about that alleged “pal” of yours, Mark Dubose: it’s cute how you stick together, like two peas in a misguided pod. But maybe he should realize that just because he’s leaning on you, it doesn’t mean he’s on solid ground. It seems more like a game of “who can lift the biggest boulder of nonsense.”
So, go ahead, tag me in your next YouTube saga—I’ll bring popcorn. Because let’s face it, watching someone take themselves this seriously while spouting half-baked theories is a show I don’t want to miss! Let’s all sit back, grab our snacks, and see whose dog training philosophy collapses like a poorly built house of cards!
monty 4 March 2025 — Post author
you keep on flapping your lips – but I do appreciate the lines of communication. Lincoln came at me anon too, and he spoke volumes. Clever you say? You have no clue. People are looking to me for leadership? That’s not me – but I am the very lone wolf that you don’t want in your blind spot. And i’m in a whole lot of blind spots and I’m not fecking around anymore. You’re going to see clever very soon.
People are waking up – and there is a war coming in dog training alright. I know exactly what dog training is and where it came from.
If you weren’t nervous and had something to say – you wouldn’t be here at all. Go tell your “dog training fam” good luck.
Rob Dog Trainer 4 March 2025
Robert, you certainly know how to make an entrance. The “lone wolf” you say? More like a solitary sheep in a field of wise, thoughtful dogs. As you prance about, declaring war on the dog training community, I can’t help but picture you atop a soapbox, clinging to the belief that your loud proclamations will drown out reason and compassion. Bravo!
If only your passion were matched by a touch of humility or, dare I say, a pinch of genuine inquiry into the complex world of dog behavior.
Claiming you’re a “lone wolf” might sound fierce, but wolves know their pack. They thrive on cooperation and understanding —something you seem to be sorely lacking. Your idea of leadership appears to involve shouting insults while tossing around accusations without a shred of evidence. It’s almost charming, like a child throwing a tantrum because he wasn’t given the red crayon instead of the blue one.
You speak of war coming in dog training, but what you’re crafting is more akin to a circus act —juggling hyperbole while pretending to wield the sword of science. If you truly understand behavior as you claim, surely you know that it’s a spectrum, not a black-and-white arena for gladiatorial combat? Yet, here you are, ready to battle anyone who challenges your narrow ideology, as if your opinion were gospel.
Let’s not fool ourselves, Robert; this isn’t about the dogs at all—it’s about your ego, your perceived crusade against the “Pet Care Conglomerate.” The irony is delicious, considering you paradoxically embody the “loud, proud, and wrong” stereotype you criticize.
Good luck with your “war,” but know this: your fervent cries resonate with those who seek to rattle cages instead of build bridges. And if you truly knew what dog training was, perhaps the only battle you’d fight would be against your own misconceptions.
monty 4 March 2025 — Post author
I know full well how to make an entrance. Kick the door in, make some noise and you would be surprised what you find. Again, if you weren’t concerned, you wouldn’t be here. And that does my heart good. Keep on coming.
Rob Dog Trainer 4 March 2025
Your theatrical invitation to “kick the door down” and make some noise is noted, and I can’t help but admire your flair for dramatic entrances, but let’s not forget that it’s not just about the volume of our arrival —it’s about the impact we leave behind.
You suggest that I should be cautious about what I might find on the other side. But in truth, I embrace the challenge of confronting uncomfortable truths and engaging with scammers and frauds like you, Rosy and Peter. If I weren’t concerned about the well-being of our canine companions, I wouldn’t step into this arena at all. My heart is dedicated to a greater cause.
So bring it on, Robert! Let’s see if you can back up your loud claims with something meaningful or if it’s just empty noise. Make a f video with a real client. Make a live direct showing us if you know anything about dogs, which you don’t. Because if you’re truly serious about the change you profess to seek, it’s time to step back from the drama and actually do something. Otherwise, you might find yourself on the outside looking in, all flash and no substance. What do you have to say for that?
And don’t forget your dear fellow BEHAVIORISTS, HA, Rosy and Peter (both know all the truth and neither one of them has been in the field for more than 5 years). Rosy, with her blind loyalty, seems more interested in echoing your words than contributing. If she’s really got your back, maybe she should challenge you now and then instead of just being a cheerleader from the sidelines. Where’s the critical thinking? And then there’s Peter, who just seems to latch onto whatever you say without a second thought —like a parrot repeating phrases without understanding their meaning. Oh! He read B.F. Skinner About Behaviorism! You’d think he’d have a mind of his own, but no, he’s just another voice in the chorus, drowning out genuine debate with mindless support.
To them, I say, go read more than just one book in your lifes. Some author suggestions, because I am a gentleman:
Konrad Lorenz
John Paul Scott
L. David Mech
James O’Heare
Gerd G. Schuster
Patricia B. McConnell
monty 4 March 2025 — Post author
You’re like a puppy to a slipper…
Rob Dog Trainer 4 March 2025
In reality, your attempts at wit are akin to throwing a tennis ball into a lake —endlessly ricocheting off the surface but never truly diving into the depths where the truth resides. So, while you trot around with your metaphorical slipper, I’ll be here, calmly tracking the scent of genuine change in the realm of canine welfare, confident that it’s not the distractions but the depth of understanding that leads to meaningful, lasting impact.
monty 4 March 2025 — Post author
Oh my! Don’t ignore me! Begging to be noticed. you’re noticed.
Rob Dog Trainer 5 March 2025
You claim I’m begging to be noticed, yet here you are, frantically waving your arms like a child in a tantrum, desperate for acknowledgment. So congratulations, you’ve successfully turned your own inadequacies into a performance! If only you could channel that energy into something worthwhile instead of this cringeworthy display. Keep it coming, though; it’s comedic gold!
Rob Dog Trainer 5 March 2025
Now, for anyone entering this blog for the first time. Please, be aware of the fraud. If you think the quadrants of dog training are wrong, like this scammer says, read the next and find some books to read. Try to read ethologists, neuropsychology, biology, etc. All of that is the true foundation of how dogs are and how we should teach and help them.
“In the realm of dog training, the understanding of operant conditioning is foundational, and scholarly discussions must focus on the scientifically validated principles underpinning behavior modification. B.F. Skinner’s research laid the groundwork for operant conditioning frameworks, identifying four fundamental quadrants: positive reinforcement, negative reinforcement, positive punishment, and negative punishment.
Positive reinforcement involves the addition of a stimulus to increase the likelihood of a behavior occurring again. This aligns with the principles of ethology as proposed by Konrad Lorenz, which emphasizes the importance of rewarding behaviors that are natural and beneficial for both the dog and handler.
Conversely, negative reinforcement, wherein an aversive stimulus is removed to strengthen a behavior, can be effective but must be applied judiciously to avoid counterproductive outcomes as suggested by psychologists like Edward Thorndike in his Law of Effect.
Positive punishment introduces an aversive stimulus to decrease an unwanted behavior, while negative punishment involves removing a positive stimulus. The efficacy of these approaches has been debated extensively in contemporary literature. Researchers such as John McGuigan have noted that the use of positive punishment can lead to adverse emotional states, and diminished trust between the animal and trainer, a sentiment echoed by the Association of Professional Dog Trainers.
In contrast, negative punishment could involve withholding a reward (e.g., playtime) when a dog exhibits unwanted behavior, which can effectively reduce that behavior without instilling fear.
Understanding the neuropsychological underpinnings of these mechanisms —such as the role of dopamine in reinforcing positive behaviors, as discussed by neuroscientist Robert Sapolsky—underscores the importance of leveraging positive reinforcement not only for immediate behavioral change but also for fostering cognitive and emotional well-being in dogs.”
monty 5 March 2025 — Post author
LOL. I love how this conversation as evolved. Here you are, coming at me anon without the balls to expose yourself and calling us frauds. lol
Read your posts from my perspective and ask yourself – why are your responses still on this blog? Why am I keeping them and not deleting?
You are pathetic. You are weak. You are a coward. People won’t listen to pathetic, weak and cowardly.
monty 5 March 2025 — Post author
And by the way, Mark Dubose and I are going live tonite and we are going to talk about stuff that is in this blog and more. I highly suggest you join in. Bring all your friends over – the whole dog training fam.
Rob Dog Trainer 5 March 2025
It’s frankly ridiculous how you sit there throwing insults like “pathetic” and “coward.” Look in the mirror. Your over-the-top bravado doesn’t intimidate anyone —it just highlights how insecure you truly are.
Let’s get one thing straight: calling out the dog training community doesn’t make you a hero or an authority; it makes you sound desperate for attention. If you have real insights or methods that work, put them on the table instead of hiding behind an aggressive facade. Most of your videos are you talking to a camera. Your dog client videos are pure garbage and don’t show nothing, neither the dog before or after, LOL.
Using pseudoscience to justify questionable practices is not only irresponsible; it’s harmful to both dogs and their owners. The dog training community deserves facts, not your twisted interpretation of behaviorism that attempts to elevate you above others.
Your influence on Mark and those who blindly follow you shows just how far misinformation can spread when someone prioritizes personal gain over genuine understanding and compassion for animals. You’ve chosen the path of division and deception, and it’s time to expose this charade.
Robert, I suppose we should all thank you for your masterclass in alternative dog training methods, where facts take a backseat to your charming charisma. It’s a wonder you haven’t been nominated for the canine equivalent of a Nobel Prize —a whisker-twitching award for simply making things up as you go along! Perhaps your next endeavor should be to write an autobiography titled “How to Lead the Blind by the Leash: A Journey in Misinformation.” At the very least, it might provide a good laugh for those of us who prefer our dog training without a side of delusion. Cheers!
monty 5 March 2025 — Post author
Here’s another one just for you. You are a coward – the “expert” coward. Keep on coming. Lol. You talk like I’m supposed to be afraid of you? You’re the one afraid of me. And I love the smell of fear. I love trainer abuse. I love trainer tears. And I love the fact that I’m in stuck in your head – that’s the best part of it all. lol
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WhkzRScOaPI
Rob Dog Trainer 5 March 2025
Your infatuation with the idea that you’re somehow rattling me is amusing. The truth is, I’m here to promote real, evidence-based dog training, while you’re busily constructing a narrative that thrives on chaos and misguided aggression.
But if you truly believe your antics hold any weight, by all means, keep this charade going — it only furthers the cause of real dog training advocacy. For every laugh you draw from cynicism, there are countless more who really care about the well-being of animals and are willing to engage in genuine, constructive discourse. So, let’s see how far this goes. Bring on your next rebuttal!
And while you’re busy promoting your live stream with Mark, do remember this: true mastery in dog training is far less about bravado and ego, and far more about understanding, patience, and respect for the animal. I’ll eagerly await your next move, but be warned — I won’t hold back in exposing the difference between performance art and real expertise.
Rob Dog Trainer 5 March 2025
And no, I am not the expert. I don’t no everything. But it’s true that I am throwing papers and books from real experts in various fields (biology, ethology, psychology, neuropsychology, etc.) at you, and that infuriates you because you haven’t studied any of that, and yet you call yourself the behaviorist, LOL.
monty 5 March 2025 — Post author
I don’t know who you are. I don’t care about you. I don’t care about a ghosts opinion. If you had anything that you felt was valid to say? you wouldn’t be scared and hiding. People really are losing their minds today. But I am so glad that I am stuck in your head – living rent free. You just don’t get it – that’s my plan.
Rob Dog Trainer 6 March 2025
Ah, Robert, I must commend you on your bravado; it’s akin to a terrier trying to intimidate a Great Dane —rather entertaining, really. Your insistence on being, what shall we say, a disrupter of sorts, is quite the spectacle, but let’s not confuse noise with substance. It’s charming, truly, how you revel in this curious notion of ‘living rent-free’ in someone’s head, though I daresay it’s more akin to setting up a doghouse in a maelstrom of reasoning. While you cavort in the realm of hyperbole, I’m here championing those pesky little things called facts —you see, unlike a poorly trained Labrador, they don’t run off at the first sight of distraction. If you’re genuinely invested in the welfare of our canine companions rather than parading a self-aggrandising farce, it might serve you well to swap some of that snark for a dash of knowledge —perhaps even consult a textbook or two rather than relying on your charisma to charm the questionable practices out of obscurity. But by all means, continue your performance; it provides ample fodder for those of us who prefer dog training to be sprinkled with a modicum of logic rather than theatrical flair. Cheers to that.
monty 6 March 2025 — Post author
Here. Take this back to the “dog training fam”.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSkVHO_Z9_U
Rob Dog Trainer 6 March 2025
Thanks for sharing the video featuring your discussion with Mark Dubose. I appreciate the effort to put your thoughts out there, but I must stress that showcasing opinions without solid scientific backing only perpetuates the cycle of misinformation in the dog training community.
Of course, not everything you’re saying is wrong. When you talk about CBD, cortisol, adrenaline, fight or flight, etc. –most of that is true. However, you start talking nonsense with things that have been debunked ages ago.
Some examples? The quadrants of dog training, raw food diet (which can be highly dangerous if done incorrectly. I assume you know what you’re doing since you mentioned being really careful, but suggesting it to someone without any knowledge is dangerous), and the claim that dogs are only carnivores (this is even worse than the quadrants. Dogs are facultative carnivores; look up what that means. If you care about the difference between Operant Conditioning and Operant Conditioning according to B.F. Skinner when you write it on Google, do the same with CARNIVORES DEFINITION and FACULTATIVE CARNIVORES DEFINITION), etc.
Of course, you won’t listen. And yet, you want people to listen to you. Hehehe.
Rob Dog Trainer 6 March 2025
Oh, I forgot. This is the first video I saw from you:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiaHRg58aB0
Do you enjoy bullying people? Have you watched the entire video? That dog is causing problems for its owners because it doesn’t allow anyone to touch or hold it. As always, you criticize Linn telling him he is doing everything wrong according to your interpretation of B.F. Skinner’s works. Now, let me ask you (even though I know you won’t respond):
What would you do in his position to help this dog?
Also, you’re scared to meet any dog next to the owner because you think the dog is going to bite you. Look at Linn here, he is fine with it, and the owner is present:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aexRDimDWAE
OH, I HAVE A SURPRISE FOR YOU.
In the next few days you will see a response here or somewhere else (I will post it here) from a Ph.D. Behavior Analysis Professor from a very well known University. This person will talk about your views on Positive Reinforcement, the quadrants and everything else. I can hear you already crying.
monty 7 March 2025 — Post author
Oh wonderful – I hope it’s Dr. Fernandez that’s doing that talk.
Rob Dog Trainer 7 March 2025
I knew you wouldn’t know what to say regarding the first video I linked. You can’t help an owner with a resource-guarding dog like that.
I hope I receive the response in less than 7 days.
monty 7 March 2025 — Post author
I fully explained everything in my video. I know you don’t like it – but go ask Lynn himself to tell you just what psychology he’s pushing.
And again, I hope your speaker is Dr. Fernandez. Be sure to pass the video along so I can react to it.
Rob Dog Trainer 7 March 2025
You didn’t mention how you would have approached the situation. While you rightly critique him and his method, it would be valuable to provide your own strategy for working with that dog to assist the owner. But you didn’t do it.
monty 7 March 2025 — Post author
I could care less about what an anonymous mouth thinks about me. Put your money where your mouth is – and get on camera – lets talk. But you are too scared to.
I will be so glad when every dog trainer is out of a job. You’re here putting your desperation on full display. And I love trainers desperation, I love the taste of it.
Rob Dog Trainer 7 March 2025
Always a pleasure to see your grandstanding theatrics. You’re like a circus clown who’s convinced he’s the main act, all while utterly failing to show how one might actually help an owner with a resource guard dog. Perhaps your grand theory would work beautifully in a laboratory setting, but I suspect your practical experience is rather lacking, wouldn’t you agree?
It’s easy to throw around big words and critique methodologies from the sidelines, but when it comes time to roll up your sleeves and truly assist an owner, it seems you’d rather pull a disappearing act than offer any practical solutions.
And for any lovely souls reading this blog, who are caught in the crossfire of Robert’s bombastic claims and would like a more grounded discussion, I’m happy to offer free videocalls on Google Meets. Just send me an email at rob.dogtraining@gmail.com. Let’s chat about real solutions, rather than the theatrical nonsense Robert seems so fond of. Who knows, you might even learn a thing or two that goes beyond the theoretical musings of a lone wolf in a field of dogs. Also, if you have a resource guardian dog, I can help you to fix your problem in one day. The same goes for a reactive/aggressive dog, and any other behavioral issue. I won’t do like Robert claiming basic things like “CBD this, EXERCISE that, FLIRT POLE again, SQUAT DOWN like that, DON’T DO NOTHING!” I will help you with real knowledge and you will see results super fast. For free.
monty 7 March 2025 — Post author
desperation
Rob Dog Trainer 7 March 2025
I’m not the one who built my YouTube channel by reacting to others because you couldn’t attract an audience of your own. It’s unfortunate that you faced attacks and ended up backing down with your tail between your legs. Is that why you don’t react to Robert Cabral anymore? Are you scared of him?
I still remember a video of you saying that you were going to shut everything down because you were frustrated that no one was listening to you. You were so angry, almost in tears—it was quite amusing to watch. You declared, “I’M DONE WITH THIS, I AM NOT GOING TO DO THIS ANYMORE.” And yet, here you are, still at it.
monty 7 March 2025 — Post author
Pure desperation. You bring the entire “dog training fam” together and you do your worst. Lets finish it – no more cowardly hiding in the shadows. If you want a war – then bring it on. You’re too fucking scared. The only option you have is coming at me anonymously – and all I can do is laugh at you.
Rob Dog Trainer 7 March 2025
It’s amusing, Robert, watching you try to position yourself as some kind of messianic figure in the dog training world. But let’s face it: all you’ve succeeded in doing is becoming the court jester in a drama of your own making.
monty 7 March 2025 — Post author
If you sorry bunch think I’m afraid of you? Think again. I seriously hope you are here as a rep for Robert Cabral. If my name were Zak George – Cabral would be flapping his gums all over social media. I enjoy Cabral – the dog to a bone doesn’t know when to shut his mouth. He’s been beaking off about people like me for years. He threatened to sue me – told him to go for it – cause the discovery alone will destroy dog training and he knows it. He threatened a cease and desist – told him to go for it – I’ll make it public. Trainers were threatening to call the cops, to call interpol. Welcome to all the bravery in dog training – and Cabral is too scared to utter my name. Such a brave bunch eh?
I gave Cabral a few smacks upside the head and he ran screaming like the scared little petulant child he is. This was the result. They brought in Alex Dittmann to take the fall – to protect Cabral. Nicely played eh? But they are all bold and brave eh? What a joke. Alex deleted her comments – but I have them all recorded to video for proof.
https://www.facebook.com/RobertCabral/posts/pfbid027rB3sfyWXkU8t8LK9pBqS3fpCSwJ6ZVp54AYDU93s1TAhqiFKcViQyYsSw6qFmWZl
You want a war? Bring it on – cause Cabral knows that’s exactly what i want. Lets finish this game so I can go off and retire with a smile on my face.
Rob Dog Trainer 7 March 2025
Listen closely, Robert. Engaging with you feels like trying to teach a cat to fetch—pointless and frustrating. Your obsession with throwing shade at anyone who dares to challenge you shows a glaring lack of substance. If it weren’t so pitiful, it might even be entertaining, but we both know you’re just playing a tired act.
Your threats and slander only make you look like a desperate comedian whose punchlines fall flat. You can call me anonymous all you want, but I’d rather be an unknown with substance than a known clown with inflated bravado. It’s rich coming from someone whose entire platform hinges on stirring the pot rather than offering genuine insight. You talk about starting wars, but you’re alone. That’s not power; that’s just sad. Maybe one day you’ll put away the clown shoes and step into something that actually makes a difference. Until then, I’ll be here.
monty 7 March 2025 — Post author
I am enjoying every moment of this. I love the stink of dog trainers desperation. Go do your worst.
Rob Dog Trainer 7 March 2025
And I love the stink of frauds 😉
Rob Dog Trainer 8 March 2025
I would like to request the removal of all my comments from your blog posts. The reason for this is that I’m currently exploring the views of @christianhershman2786 and @The_Anti_Dog_Trainer. While I appreciate our discussions (it was fun trying to find proper analogies with humour) and I respect (and deny) your perspective, I want to clarify that I do not align with the beliefs of those two individuals, who I see as garbage, they’re full of shit.
Please, send them this from me. Cheers.
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I see you’ve brought up Lawrence Hinman’s paper “Can Skinner Tell a Lie?” as if it’s some kind of holy grail of hyper-critique. Sure, philosophical debates are fun and all —like arguing whether a hot dog is a sandwich— but let’s not forget that Skinner’s theories are less about deep existential crises and more about, you know, actual results.
First off, Skinner’s empirical approach to psychology gave us tools that work every day. His operant conditioning isn’t just a fancy term to impress your friends at a party; it’s been used to train everything from dogs to your cousin’s wildly rebellious parakeet. Saying Skinner didn’t have a grasp on practical applications is like saying a chef doesn’t know how to boil water —utterly ridiculous.
And let’s not overlook José Antonio Marina, who’s out there juggling the complexities of behavior like a circus performer on a unicycle. Marina combines cognitive processes with behavioral insights, showing that learning can be fun and effective. Think of it as Skinner with a dash of Mediterranean flair. If that guy can successfully teach us something about human behavior without knocking Skinner off his pedestal, then perhaps we should reevaluate just how nihilistic one can be about behaviorism.
Now, regarding Hinman’s assertion that Skinner promotes epistemological nihilism, I have to ask: Does he even know what that means, or was it just the longest word he could find to sound smart? Skinner was simply saying, “Hey, let’s focus on what we can see and measure”, not “Let’s all climb into a metaphysical hot tub and ponder the meaning of life.”
In the world of psychology, let’s stick to methods that produce results, like Skinner’s, rather than getting lost in philosophical yarns that may as well come with an accompanying quilt. If you want to advance the understanding of behavior, why not start with some solid principles rather than trying to debunk the guy who has helped shape modern psychological practice?
So, let’s raise a toast to Skinner (preferably a nice, observable glass of water), and remember that while philosophical debates are entertaining, Skinner’s work is the real deal —proven, practical, and ready for action.
monty 8 March 2025 — Post author
You know, I couldn’t make this up if I tried. Your request is denied. You said it – you can wear it like a badge of honor.
Christian Hershman? That’s Dale McCluskeys new trainee. Go to Dale’s channel on youtube and you can watch the very views of Christopher. All they know to do is choke a dog out. But I’m sure you’ll love it and fit right in. Here, I’ll make it easy for you.
https://www.youtube.com/@DaleMcCluskey
The anti_dog_trainer? He screwed himself this morning – he’s done. Exposed himself as the ignorant trainer that he is.
But feel free to belly up to them. Dog trainers are dropping like flies – this is too easy.
Rosy Skantzos 9 March 2025
Hi Rob the Dog Trainer 👋
Given you’ve made reference to me a couple of times in this comment thread I thought I might chime in with some actual truths.
Unlike yourself, my full name is my actual real full name. I’m also a wife, mum and business owner. What I am not is a Dog Trainer, never have been, never will be and have never claimed to be.
I simply fell victim to many dog trainers, 5 in person and 1 online- in pursuit of an obedient dog. Funny thing was, I never actually wanted an obedient dog, I just wanted a well behaved dog that I could share and give a great life to- but I was never asked what I wanted. So strangely enough, I had a very obedient dog but my world was shrinking and I was getting further from what I wanted- I must have been doing something wrong so I kept on searching for the answer. Someone recommended Robert Cabral on YouTube and I’m grateful they did. Don’t know how but instead of Robert Cabral I landed on a video that was made by another Robert- Robert Hynes. I watched that video because, hey why not and that was the beginning of the end for me. This video was a reaction video to RC trying to assess/ evaluate a shelter dog, looked like a GSD. Everything that RH was saying made sense in that moment. So naturally I went over to his channel- within weeks of consuming all his content I finally had my AHA moment.
I don’t need to go into the rest, you know Roberts philosophy and the science behind it- you appose it behind your keyboard. I however adopted it, paid my last ever dollar in anything dog training with a couple of consultants with Robert and now have what I was looking for. I have man’s best friend.
I will shout to the roof tops to anyone that asks about my experience and give advice to what has worked for me. I have never claimed to be an expert and I certainly have not trained anyone else’s dog nor do I have any interest or need to make money off of anyone.
I hope this clears things up for you and if it doesn’t- well, I can’t help stupid.
Have a good day 😊
The real Rosy Skantzos.
Rob Dog Trainer 10 March 2025
Rosy, I appreciate you taking the time to share your journey with dog training. Your honesty about your experiences really emphasizes how complex and varied the world of canine companionship can be.
It’s great to hear that you embrace your roles as a wife, mom, and business owner while navigating the complexities of dog ownership, even without necessarily being a dog trainer. I’ve never stated that you were a dog trainer; my criticism was directed at Robert. He claimed that no dog trainer should work on behavior without reading Skinner. I have read Skinner’s work and have a different appreciation for some of the concepts (but not all) regarding Robert’s beliefs. That’s why I criticized his statement, especially since, on his website, in the “Our Team” section, you are mentioned as if he is implying you are a behaviorist yourself. That was my take, nothing else.
While I genuinely admire your personal journey, I do want to take a moment to elaborate on my position regarding dog training, particularly given the heated discussion I had with Robert. My aim is to advocate for approaches grounded in evidence and scientific understanding. It’s essential to recognize that there are more techniques than the usual dog training methods that are commonly used (treats, counter conditioning, desensitize the dog, etc.). C.A.T., as I mentioned in my very first message on this blogs, is based on the work of many radical behaviorists (B.F. Skinner, Edwin Goldiamond and José A. Delgado). For a session, I don’t need anything from the client when I use C.A.T., just their dog on a normal collar and leash —no treats and no other tools (I am referring specifically to aggressive or reactive dogs).
I understand that every dog owner’s experience is unique, and I fully respect your transition to the methods you’ve chosen. However, I believe it’s vital to continue promoting discussions around different methods. C.A.T. faced criticism from the dog training community because it uses negative reinforcement, but their understanding of what constituted negative reinforcement does not align for what it really is.
I apologize if my previous comments felt overly harsh —I tend to get a bit carried away at times when I perceive that someone is not being fair (and I mean that since Robert called out the entire dog training community).
Sharing your full name is perfectly fine. For me, it’s just about being comfortable with how much I share (only my name). I don’t feel attacked by that.
I completely agree that a well-behaved dog should not equate to a robotic or overly obedient pet. So, cheers to your journey and the changes you’ve embraced. Dogs have their own personalities and require our compassion and understanding.
Cheers.